{"id":9681,"date":"2014-11-19T12:40:12","date_gmt":"2014-11-19T17:40:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/principles\/?p=9681"},"modified":"2014-11-19T12:40:12","modified_gmt":"2014-11-19T17:40:12","slug":"pnas-w-f-patent-lawyer","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/2014\/11\/19\/pnas-w-f-patent-lawyer\/","title":{"rendered":"PNAS: W. F., Patent Lawyer"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>I&#8217;ve decided to do a <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/principles\/2014\/11\/18\/return-of-the-revenge-of-the-project-for-non-academic-science\/\">new round of profiles<\/a> in the <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/principles\/category\/jobs\/pnas\/\">Project for Non-Academic Science<\/a> (acronym deliberately chosen to coincide with a journal), as a way of getting a little more information out there to students studying in STEM fields who will likely end up with jobs off the &#8220;standard&#8221; academic science track.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>First up in this round is a CS major turned IP lawyer.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>1) What is your non-academic job?<\/strong> I am an intellectual property attorney. I work for a &#8220;boutique&#8221; law firm, which means it specializes in one area of law (that being intellectual property, naturally). I work on all areas of IP, principally patent, copyright, and trademark (but especially patents).<\/p>\n<p>In 2014, I was seconded to Japan for a major client of my firm, a Japanese corporation that you&#8217;ve heard of (to say the least) but that I won&#8217;t name. I do the same job, but I work directly and solely for this corporation.<\/p>\n<p><strong>2) What is your science background? <\/strong>  I have a Bachelor&#8217;s of Science in Engineering from the University of Pennsylvania in Computer Science Engineering. (I&#8217;m also a member of the Patent Bar, which is relevant because that requires a level of scientific background usually seen through coursework.)<\/p>\n<p><strong>3) What led you to this job?<\/strong> When I started college, I figured I was going to get my programming degree and go off and work at Google or somewhere and write code for a living. But while I was there I took several courses in the History and Sociology of Science department (which I ended up minoring in) on the relationship between science\/technology and society\/culture, including History of Western Technology, Science and Literature (&#8220;science fiction as the mythology of the modern scientific\/technological society&#8221;), and Cyberculture.<\/p>\n<p>I realized that I was still fascinated by technology and computers, but not for their own sake: I wanted to be involved in how they fit into the world. And in that interplay, I found the issues of law. Cyberlaw, copyright law in the digital era, constitutional questions applied to the Internet, and the underlying questions of creativity, technology, and culture&#8230;it grabbed me and didn&#8217;t let go.<\/p>\n<p>I graduated and spent two years working as a programmer, more to get some &#8220;real life&#8221; experience before going back to school than anything else, then went to law school. From there it was straightforward interviewing through my school.<\/p>\n<p>I got my secondment because it was a preexisting program at my firm, but I made a point of asking about it a lot.<\/p>\n<p><strong>4) What&#8217;s your work environment like? (Lab bench, field work, office, etc)<\/strong>  I work in an office. In New York I have my own office with a door that closes and everything, and my firm is business formal four days a week with casual Fridays; in Japan I&#8217;m in a big open-plan office (which is apparently the norm here) and business casual every day unless we&#8217;re having a big meeting and want to look the part.<\/p>\n<p><strong>5) What do you do in a typical day?<\/strong> Most of my job is reading and writing. On a typical day I&#8217;ll research case law to write legal opinions or legal arguments, review patents for legal analysis, consult with a client about their case, maybe do some filing of documents with the relevant court, or review documents we received as part of our cases (the dreaded &#8220;doc review&#8221;).<\/p>\n<p>In Japan, it&#8217;s pretty much the same, but with an emphasis on reviewing contracts for proper English usage, and meeting with American adversaries (companies we&#8217;re involved in disputes with) to be involved in negotiation, including translation&#8211;of gestures and tact as much as language. I spend a good amount of time explaining to my Japanese coworkers what I, as an American, read from adversaries&#8217; body language or tone of voice.<\/p>\n<p><strong>6) How does your science background help you in your job?<\/strong>  Most important for me is that I review patents, and I really do need a science background for that. (As I said above, a science background is actually required to be on the Patent Bar, which just means I&#8217;m allowed to file patent applications for other people.) Patents will frequently have schematics or specialized terms, and a lot of patent law is based around the perspective of a &#8220;person having ordinary skill in the art,&#8221; so it&#8217;s pretty important to speak the language or technology and science.<\/p>\n<p><strong>7) If a current college student wanted to get a job like yours, how<br \/>\nshould they go about it?<\/strong> They shouldn&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<p>Just kidding. That&#8217;s the standard answer to people college students who want to be lawyers, though. Google around and you can find plenty on that point. But if you&#8217;ve actually decided that you want to be an IP lawyer, get a grounding in the law (I took a &#8220;law 101&#8221; course as an undergrad), and choose your law school carefully.<\/p>\n<p>IP is kind of an odd duck in the law; unlike a lot of other fields it&#8217;s more specialized (hence there are a lot more boutique firms like mine), so if you&#8217;re in this, you&#8217;ll be in for the long haul. You can&#8217;t really decide to chuck it and switch to bankruptcy. (I mean, you can, but it&#8217;s a bit harder.)<\/p>\n<p>On the other hand, I do entertain fantasies of going in-house at places like Google (and it&#8217;s possible).<\/p>\n<p>Some things don&#8217;t change.<\/p>\n<p><strong>8) What&#8217;s the most important thing you learned from science?<\/strong>  Logic. During my 1L course on statutory interpretation, I seemed to be the only person in the room who understood the difference between &#8220;and&#8221; and &#8220;or&#8221; when used in a list. (It&#8217;s pretty important because if a law, especially something like a criminal law, says &#8220;A, B, _and_ C,&#8221; that&#8217;s really different from &#8220;A, B, _or_ C.&#8221; And the law is full of multi-part tests.)<\/p>\n<p>Relatedly, my experience with computer code makes legal code easier to understand. Jokes on the names aside, the two forms of writing have a lot more in common with each other than either does with fiction.<\/p>\n<p>And like I said, the language of science is pretty damn important. Especially when you&#8217;re dealing with engineers giving depositions.<\/p>\n<p><strong>9) What advice would you give to young science students trying to plan<br \/>\ntheir careers?<\/strong> Never be afraid to reevaluate why you want to do something. I thought I wanted to be a programmer, but it wasn&#8217;t writing code that I really cared about.<\/p>\n<p><strong>10) (Totally Optional Question) What&#8217;s the pay like?<\/strong>  I&#8217;m a lawyer, in a traditional law firm to boot. More has been written about legal salaries than about why college students shouldn&#8217;t want to be lawyers. All I&#8217;ll say is, I&#8217;m on the lowish side of the ridiculous salaries common to my profession.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve decided to do a new round of profiles in the Project for Non-Academic Science (acronym deliberately chosen to coincide with a journal), as a way of getting a little more information out there to students studying in STEM fields who will likely end up with jobs off the &#8220;standard&#8221; academic science track. First up&hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/2014\/11\/19\/pnas-w-f-patent-lawyer\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">PNAS: W. 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