{"id":810,"date":"2006-11-12T10:52:35","date_gmt":"2006-11-12T10:52:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/principles\/2006\/11\/12\/new-car-shopping\/"},"modified":"2006-11-12T10:52:35","modified_gmt":"2006-11-12T10:52:35","slug":"new-car-shopping","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/2006\/11\/12\/new-car-shopping\/","title":{"rendered":"New Car Shopping"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>(I bet this will get me all sorts of incredibly useful search engine traffic&#8230;)<\/p>\n<p>Some time back, I <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/principles\/2006\/08\/pimp_me_new_cars.php\">asked for car-buying advice<\/a>, and got a wealth of it in comments. Yesterday, Kate and I did a little car shopping, and visited a handful of local dealers to look at various cars. As with the last time I did this (circa 1997), just sitting in cars was enough to narrow the choice dramatically.<\/p>\n<p>We tried pretty much everything in the big car\/ small SUV line at the Honda dealership, and there wasn&#8217;t a vehicle there where I didn&#8217;t bang my knee into the steering column while switching from the gas to the brake. The Subaru wagon\/ SUV vehicles were likewise hopeless, to the point that even the salesman couldn&#8217;t work up any enthusiasm for pushing new things at me. Toyota was somewhat better, but still had significant knee position issues. The one car we tried there that didn&#8217;t bruise my knees was an Avalon, which fails the cargo space criterion, as the back seats don&#8217;t fold down (which is the primary cargo issue with my 1999 Taurus).<\/p>\n<p>That pretty much narrows it down to two vehicles, with a number of pros and cons and car questions that I&#8217;ll put below the fold, to build suspense&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>The two vehicles that were comfortable enough to actually drive around a bit were the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fordvehicles.com\/crossovers\/freestyle\/index.asp?v=html\">Ford Freestyle<\/a>, which is basically a station wagon version of the Five Hundred (which replaced the Taurus), and the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fordvehicles.com\/suvs\/escape\/?v=html\">Ford Escape<\/a>, which is a small SUV. Both had ample leg room, and the wheel was positioned in a way that gave me a good deal of freedom in positioning my leg (the Honda and Toyota cars would&#8217;ve been ok, if the wheel could&#8217;ve been adjusted upward another few degrees). <\/p>\n<p>This is pretty much what happened the last time I looked at cars, too&#8211; I ended up with a Ford because they were the only cars that were well designed for my height. The new round of Fords aren&#8217;t quite as good&#8211; they&#8217;ve gone to a built-in center console that restricts movement a bit&#8211; but they&#8217;re still better than anything else we tried.<\/p>\n<p>Of the two, I&#8217;m leaning in the direction of the Freestyle, because the one we drove was pretty nice. The Escape comes in a hybrid model with considerably better mileage, but they didn&#8217;t have one on the lot, and the 4-cylinder model that was suggested as being similar in feel to the hybrid was a little too truck-y, and seemed under-powered (for me to say that is really something, as that&#8217;s the knock on my Taurus, and I&#8217;ve never had a problem with that). <cite>Consumer Reports<\/cite> also declines to recommend the Escape and variants due to a tendency to go up on two wheels in side impact tests, which is also a factor.<\/p>\n<p>In the Pro-Freestyle column, we have: Nice ride, lots of room, generally good reviews on the Interwebs. In the Anti-Freestyle column: the mileage is good but not great, and Ford is having some trouble at the moment. Others would probably add that Fords don&#8217;t have the reliability record of Honda or Toyota, but I&#8217;ve had fairly good luck with them in the past, so I&#8217;m not too worried on that account.<\/p>\n<p>If anybody has any experience with either of these two vehicles, I&#8217;d be happy to hear more opinions. The customer reviews on the <cite>Consumer Reports<\/cite> site are generally good for both the Freestyle and the Escape, though I haven&#8217;t looked around to see if they just tend to get only good reviews for everything (suggestions of cars to check out in search of bad user reviews are also welcome).<\/p>\n<p>Also, a couple of car-buying queries, as I am not a Car Guy:<\/p>\n<p>1) How important\/ useful is the All-Wheel Drive option on these? I know the point is supposed to be that it improves handling in bad weather, but how big a deal is that? The Taurus is front-wheel drive, and I haven&#8217;t had any major problems with it up here. The AWD versions are a bit more expensive, and the mileage is a little lower, though neither of those would be a huge obstacle if it&#8217;s worth having.<\/p>\n<p>2) The Freestyle has a Continuously Variable Transmission, just like Kate&#8217;s Prius. I know that this takes a little getting used to, but are there any significant downsides to it other than that it feels weird after years of driving regular automatic transmissions?<\/p>\n<p>3) What <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fordvehicles.com\/crossovers\/freestyle\/features\/\">options<\/a> would you consider essential? The standard features on the &#8220;SEL&#8221; version look fine to me, but that doesn&#8217;t mean there isn&#8217;t some critical feature in the &#8220;Limited&#8221; option package that I&#8217;m missing.<\/p>\n<p>4) I wouldn&#8217;t mind hearing can&#8217;t-miss financial advice, either, if there&#8217;s some conventional wisdom about the best way to approach new car financing (what&#8217;s the optimum combination of downpayment, loan term, interest rate. etc.). Kate handles most of that sort of stuff, as I&#8217;m Bad With Money, and prefer to leave it to her, but I&#8217;m happy to pass along useful tips.<\/p>\n<p>Feel free to suggest other cars that we really ought to look at before making a purchase. There isn&#8217;t a huge rush, here, though we&#8217;ll probably do something in the next few weeks.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(I bet this will get me all sorts of incredibly useful search engine traffic&#8230;) Some time back, I asked for car-buying advice, and got a wealth of it in comments. Yesterday, Kate and I did a little car shopping, and visited a handful of local dealers to look at various cars. As with the last&hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/2006\/11\/12\/new-car-shopping\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">New Car Shopping<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"1","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-810","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-personal","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/810","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=810"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/810\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=810"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=810"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=810"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}