{"id":703,"date":"2006-10-12T10:49:04","date_gmt":"2006-10-12T10:49:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/principles\/2006\/10\/12\/give-the-rubes-some-credit\/"},"modified":"2006-10-12T10:49:04","modified_gmt":"2006-10-12T10:49:04","slug":"give-the-rubes-some-credit","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/2006\/10\/12\/give-the-rubes-some-credit\/","title":{"rendered":"Give the Rubes Some Credit"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonmonthly.com\/archives\/individual\/2006_10\/009744.php\">Kevin Drum<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.samefacts.com\/archives\/religion_and_politics_\/2006\/10\/faithbased_pork.php\">Mark Kleiman<\/a> both pick up on the new book from Dennis Kuo saying that the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.msn.com\/id\/15228489\/\">&#8220;faith-based initiatives&#8221; program was a political scam<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The MSNBC piece contains a few colorful quotes about the shenanigans Kuo is reporting, which sound pretty bad. Kevin cites them, then asks:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Like I said a few days ago, are social conservatives ever going to catch on to the way they&#8217;re being conned by the Republican Party?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>I agree that they&#8217;re being conned, but at the same time, what, exactly, does Kevin think they&#8217;re going to do about it?<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>This is one of the central problems with the &#8220;What&#8217;s the Matter With Kansas?&#8221; thesis. The people we&#8217;re talking about aren&#8217;t cynical political operatives, they&#8217;re honest-to-God social conservatives. They&#8217;re in favor of socially conservative policies not because they see it as an opportunity to gain political power, but because they sincerely believe that they&#8217;re the right thing to do.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not talking about the leaders of the various evangelical groups, here, or major lobbyists, or other Washington players. I&#8217;m talking about the ground-level voters who go to the polls and support Republicans on &#8220;values&#8221; grounds. They&#8217;re not voting that way because they&#8217;re stupid, they&#8217;re voting that way because they <strong>really believe<\/strong> that abortion is wrong, that abstinence is the only appropriate birth control, that public prayer ought to be allowed.<\/p>\n<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, here&#8211; I don&#8217;t <strong>agree<\/strong> with them, and I think that many of the polciies they support are actively harmful. I don&#8217;t question the <strong>sincerity<\/strong> of their beliefs, though. They&#8217;re not voting for pro-life Republicans because it&#8217;s a great &#8220;wedge issue&#8221; to use against Democrats, but because they really and truly believe that abortion is morally wrong, and that it&#8217;s important to vote that way.<\/p>\n<p>Given that, where, exactly, do you think they&#8217;re going to go? Yeah, the Republicans are jerking them around, but are they going to vote for the Democrats? For a party that, as a matter of policy, <strong>actively opposes<\/strong> the policies they favor? (For sort of limp and spineless values of &#8220;actively oppose,&#8221; anyway&#8230;)<\/p>\n<p>Those &#8220;values voters&#8221; have a choice between a party that promises to support their position, but doesn&#8217;t follow through, and a party that promises to do the exact opposite of what they want. What do you think they&#8217;re going to do? Even if you think they&#8217;re clueless rubes for believeing what they do, this isn&#8217;t difficult math.<\/p>\n<p>I suppose there is a third option&#8211; they could just stay home. But then that puts liberals in the position of rooting for voter apathy and lower turnout, and, well, I&#8217;m just not fired up about that, either.<\/p>\n<p>Am I saying that Democrats need to start adopting socially conservative policies in order to attract these people? Well, given that I think most of those policies are disastrously wrong, that would be a dumb thing to advocate. I don&#8217;t think it would be a bad idea to start treating these voters with a little respect, rather than talking about them as if they were brainwashed morons, but that&#8217;s a different flamewar.<\/p>\n<p>But if you think they&#8217;re going to &#8220;catch on&#8221; and <strong>stop<\/strong> supporting conservative Republican candidates at every level, you&#8217;re just kidding yourself.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Kevin Drum and Mark Kleiman both pick up on the new book from Dennis Kuo saying that the &#8220;faith-based initiatives&#8221; program was a political scam. The MSNBC piece contains a few colorful quotes about the shenanigans Kuo is reporting, which sound pretty bad. Kevin cites them, then asks: Like I said a few days ago,&hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/2006\/10\/12\/give-the-rubes-some-credit\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Give the Rubes Some Credit<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"1","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[30],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-703","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-religion","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/703","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=703"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/703\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=703"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=703"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=703"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}