{"id":5900,"date":"2011-11-18T10:31:29","date_gmt":"2011-11-18T10:31:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/principles\/2011\/11\/18\/fast-neutrinos-still-fast\/"},"modified":"2011-11-18T10:31:29","modified_gmt":"2011-11-18T10:31:29","slug":"fast-neutrinos-still-fast","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/2011\/11\/18\/fast-neutrinos-still-fast\/","title":{"rendered":"Fast Neutrinos: Still Fast"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>One of the more reasonable criticisms of the <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/principles\/2011\/09\/faster_than_a_speeding_photon.php\">OPERA result showing neutrinos apparently moving faster than light<\/a> was that they were claiming 20-nanosecond resolution on the timing of a neutrino pulse that was 10000 nanoseconds long. They got their timing by doing fits to the shape of the whole pulse, as described in that link, and there&#8217;s always a little bit of alchemy in that sort of process, but they had big long pulses because that&#8217;s what the accelerator at CERN that served as the source of the neutrino beam provided.<\/p>\n<p>After the original annoucnement, they got the neutrino beam reconfigured to produce much, much shorter pulses&#8211; less than 10ns. And while they&#8217;ve only been running this way for a few weeks, they&#8217;ve already got 20 neutrino detections from the shorter pulses, and they see exactly the same timing anomaly. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.science20.com\/quantum_diaries_survivor\/opera_confirms_neutrinos_travel_faster_light-84763\">Tommaso Dorigo has more details<\/a>, with graphs.<\/p>\n<p>Now, this isn&#8217;t a solid proof of anything&#8211; it&#8217;s the same people using the same apparatus, so all it really shows is that their results are self-consistent. In other words, <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/principles\/2011\/10\/experimentalists_arent_idiots.php\">they&#8217;re not idiots<\/a> getting confused by curve-fitting anomalies. There&#8217;s still the possibility of some subtle systematic effect in the apparatus throwing everything off&#8211; indeed, that remains the most likely explanation. All this really does is require that the systematic-error explanation be a little more subtle than it was before.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One of the more reasonable criticisms of the OPERA result showing neutrinos apparently moving faster than light was that they were claiming 20-nanosecond resolution on the timing of a neutrino pulse that was 10000 nanoseconds long. They got their timing by doing fits to the shape of the whole pulse, as described in that link,&hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/2011\/11\/18\/fast-neutrinos-still-fast\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Fast Neutrinos: Still Fast<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"1","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[19,33,7,141,11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5900","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-experiment","category-in_the_news","category-physics","category-relativity","category-science","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5900","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5900"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5900\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5900"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5900"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5900"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}