{"id":521,"date":"2006-08-22T12:52:10","date_gmt":"2006-08-22T12:52:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/principles\/2006\/08\/22\/what-do-you-mean-by-normal\/"},"modified":"2006-08-22T12:52:10","modified_gmt":"2006-08-22T12:52:10","slug":"what-do-you-mean-by-normal","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/2006\/08\/22\/what-do-you-mean-by-normal\/","title":{"rendered":"What Do You Mean by Normal?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Over at Pure Pedantry, Jake has a nice post about a <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/purepedantry\/2006\/08\/bmi_is_not_a_good_predictor_of.php\"> study showing that the ever-popular Body Mass Index measure is not a good predictor of the risk of heart disease<\/a>. He&#8217;s got a lot of details about the study, including this graph of risk vs. BMI:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/principles\/wp-content\/blogs.dir\/467\/files\/2012\/04\/i-61de5c59a97f6c8c0a87b9b9deb6c7d7-bmi.jpg\" alt=\"i-61de5c59a97f6c8c0a87b9b9deb6c7d7-bmi.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Now, here&#8217;s the thing. This is the second study I recall hearing about that has a similar result&#8211; there was a flurry of articles a while back about a large study (or maybe one of those meta-studies) showing that people who were slightly overweight according to BMI had lower mortality than those of &#8220;normal&#8221; weight. And now, this study shows that people who are overweight according to BMI have a slightly lower risk of heart disease.<\/p>\n<p>My question is, who&#8217;s the idiot who decided what &#8220;normal&#8221; is? (Mroe after the cut&#8230;)<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>I mean, as a physicist, I would like to think that you would set the &#8220;normal&#8221; level by basically making the sort of graph shown above, only without the descriptive labels, and then choose the point of lowest risk as your &#8220;normal&#8221; range, and set &#8220;overweight&#8221; and &#8220;underweight&#8221; relative to that.<\/p>\n<p>Ideally, you would repeat this for several different risk factors&#8211; heart disease, diabetes, whatever else you associate with being overweight&#8211; making graphs and choosing the local minimum for each as your &#8220;normal&#8221; point. I mean, that would seem like a sensible definition of &#8220;normal&#8221; weight, in the sense that this is being used, namely the ideal that healthy people are supposed to be striving for. Ideally, you&#8217;d want everybody to try to reach the point of minimum health risk.<\/p>\n<p>And yet, it doesn&#8217;t seem like that&#8217;s what was done. Or if it was done, it wasn&#8217;t done terribly well, as there are at least two measures by which the range currently being called &#8220;normal&#8221; is a higher risk than the range currently being called &#8220;overweight.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>So how <strong>did<\/strong> they pick the current value? It&#8217;s not some graven-in-stone number that&#8217;s been handed down through the generations, I know that, as nobody talked about &#8220;BMI&#8221; back when I was in high school, and I remember at least two rounds of news stories over the last fifteen or twenty years talking about the government lowering the values considered &#8220;normal.&#8221; But if they didn&#8217;t take the sensible empirical appoach (they can&#8217;t have, otherwise the recent studies wouldn&#8217;t be publishable), what did they do?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Over at Pure Pedantry, Jake has a nice post about a study showing that the ever-popular Body Mass Index measure is not a good predictor of the risk of heart disease. He&#8217;s got a lot of details about the study, including this graph of risk vs. BMI: Now, here&#8217;s the thing. This is the second&hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/2006\/08\/22\/what-do-you-mean-by-normal\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">What Do You Mean by Normal?<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"1","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[33,45,11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-521","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-in_the_news","category-medicine","category-science","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/521","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=521"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/521\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=521"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=521"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=521"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}