{"id":4732,"date":"2010-06-01T22:30:42","date_gmt":"2010-06-01T22:30:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/principles\/2010\/06\/01\/correlation-causation-and-beli\/"},"modified":"2010-06-01T22:30:42","modified_gmt":"2010-06-01T22:30:42","slug":"correlation-causation-and-beli","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/2010\/06\/01\/correlation-causation-and-beli\/","title":{"rendered":"Correlation, Causation, and Belief in Creation"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Thinking from Kansas, <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/tfk\/2010\/05\/southerners_are_crazy.php\">Josh Rosenau notices a correlation<\/a> in data from a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailykos.com\/statepoll\/2010\/5\/27\/US\/535\">Daily Kos poll<\/a> question on the origin of the universe:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Saints be praised, 62% of the public accepts the Big Bang and a 13.7 billion year old universe. Democrats are the most positive, with 71% accepting that, while only 44% of Republicans agree (38 think it&#8217;s more recent, the rest are undecided). I&#8217;ve said it before and I stand by it: <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/tfk\/2009\/10\/is_conservative_republicanism.php\">conservative Republicanism is incompatible with science<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>But looking at the finer details tells us a lot. The only group &#8211; gender, race, or region &#8211; with anything like the Republicans&#8217; rejection of basic science, is the South:<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>The Southern split is 48-34, compared to the Republican 44-38.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, there are some other interesting things to correlate with this figure, such as <a href=\"http:\/\/www.epodunk.com\/top10\/per_pupil\/index.html\">per-pupil spending on education<\/a> (only two Southern states in the top half), or <a href=\"http:\/\/www.census.gov\/compendia\/statab\/2010\/ranks\/rank20.html\">average school teacher salaries<\/a> (3 in the top 25), or <a href=\"http:\/\/www.census.gov\/compendia\/statab\/2010\/ranks\/rank19.html\">percentage of the population with a Bachelors degree<\/a> (2 in the top 25).<\/p>\n<p>So, along with creationism, Southern-ness seems to be correlated with substandard education generally, and arguably a lack of respect for education (depending on how you want to spin the spending figures).<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Of course, to be fair, Southern-ness is also correlated with poverty&#8211; 11 Southern states are in the top 25 in terms of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.census.gov\/compendia\/statab\/2010\/ranks\/rank34.html\">percentage of the population below the poverty line<\/a>. Which could be either cause or effect of the education correlations&#8211; a decent case can be made either way.<\/p>\n<p>(The non-Kos figures are obtained by my sorting the census data and tagging states as &#8220;Southern&#8221; based more or less on membership in the Confederacy&#8211; Virginia on south, and west to Texas. Consider the uncertainty in the count to be +\/-1.)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thinking from Kansas, Josh Rosenau notices a correlation in data from a Daily Kos poll question on the origin of the universe: Saints be praised, 62% of the public accepts the Big Bang and a 13.7 billion year old universe. Democrats are the most positive, with 71% accepting that, while only 44% of Republicans agree&hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/2010\/06\/01\/correlation-causation-and-beli\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Correlation, Causation, and Belief in Creation<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"1","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[49,13,28,81,30,11,75],"tags":[263,304,305,306,123,87,261,236,88,178],"class_list":["post-4732","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-class_issues","category-education","category-politics","category-economics_1","category-religion","category-science","category-society","tag-big-bang-theory","tag-class-issues","tag-creationism","tag-economics-2","tag-education-2","tag-politics-2","tag-polls-2","tag-religion-2","tag-science-2","tag-us","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4732","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4732"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4732\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4732"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4732"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4732"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}