{"id":4182,"date":"2009-10-21T08:19:49","date_gmt":"2009-10-21T08:19:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/principles\/2009\/10\/21\/what-our-cvs-say-about-our-pro\/"},"modified":"2009-10-21T08:19:49","modified_gmt":"2009-10-21T08:19:49","slug":"what-our-cvs-say-about-our-pro","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/2009\/10\/21\/what-our-cvs-say-about-our-pro\/","title":{"rendered":"What Our CV&#8217;s Say About Our Profession"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>As mentioned on Twitter, I spent much of yesterday reading and rating a huge number of grant proposals. As such, I&#8217;ve looked at a lot of CV&#8217;s and resumes, and the contrast is striking. People who work in industry tend to use a resume format that is mostly just a list of jobs and degrees, while academics&#8230; well, we do go on.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;CV&#8221; stands for &#8220;curriculum vitae&#8221; which is Latin for &#8220;every damn thing I&#8217;ve done in my life.&#8221; It&#8217;s a much more comprehensive listing than you find on a corporate resume, including not just the important events and publications of a person&#8217;s career, but <em>everything<\/em>. Where a resume usually strives to be concise, an academic CV seems to strain to be as long as possible.<\/p>\n<p>By way of illustration, <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/principles\/wp-content\/blogs.dir\/467\/files\/2012\/04\/i-ebd47ab334ba0a755e9b9cf85dfe10c4-CVWordF09.pdf\">here&#8217;s a reasonably up-to-date version of my CV<\/a>, which runs to eight pages, and includes sections on things like committee service and community outreach. And I&#8217;m fairly moderate in what I include&#8211; I&#8217;ve seen some CV&#8217;s that I think include a citation for every blog post the person has ever written.<\/p>\n<p>Even as an academic, this strikes me as kind of odd. Several times as I found myself paging down through a couple dozen pages of contributed abstract listings, I wondered what it says about academics that we feel compelled to list every tiny little product of our entire careers. Whatever it is, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s terribly flattering.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>(My CV could be considerably longer than it is. I simply list courses that I&#8217;ve taught by title, where I&#8217;ve seen plenty of CVs where people give individual descriptions of every class. I also have a relatively small number of contributed abstracts and posters, which is a result of my slightly odd situation in graduate school. I did my thesis research at NIST, and the local culture didn&#8217;t really go in for progress-report posters and the like. If we had results to report, we would submit a talk or poster abstract for the major conferences, but when we were just plugging along with no real results, we didn&#8217;t bother (and I didn&#8217;t go to the meeting).<\/p>\n<p>(Of course, the flip side of that is that I have a longer-than-typical list of invited presentations, thanks to working for groups at NIST and Yale where the PIs would pass invited talks on to their subordinates. It&#8217;s a little unusual to see a CV with more invited than contributed presentations.)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As mentioned on Twitter, I spent much of yesterday reading and rating a huge number of grant proposals. As such, I&#8217;ve looked at a lot of CV&#8217;s and resumes, and the contrast is striking. People who work in industry tend to use a resume format that is mostly just a list of jobs and degrees,&hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/2009\/10\/21\/what-our-cvs-say-about-our-pro\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">What Our CV&#8217;s Say About Our Profession<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"1","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[8,139,13,57],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4182","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-academia","category-culture","category-education","category-jobs","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4182","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4182"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4182\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4182"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4182"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4182"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}