{"id":4073,"date":"2009-09-14T09:43:45","date_gmt":"2009-09-14T09:43:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/principles\/2009\/09\/14\/the-speed-of-god\/"},"modified":"2009-09-14T09:43:45","modified_gmt":"2009-09-14T09:43:45","slug":"the-speed-of-god","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/2009\/09\/14\/the-speed-of-god\/","title":{"rendered":"The Speed of God"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Over in Twitter-land, Eric Weinstein is visiting the AMNH at the same time as a bunch of Orthodox Jews, and takes the opportunity for <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/EricRWeinstein\/status\/3962834013\">a little Q&amp;A<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Me: Excuse me, but how is the phylogenetic tree reconciled with Torah.<\/p>\n<p>Modern Orthodox Man: Lorentzian time dilation. It&#8217;s a head hurter.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>This is an interesting attempt to square the six-day creation story with modern science, and raises one obvious question: How fast must God have been moving for the six days of creation to last 13.7 billion years?<\/p>\n<p>This is veering into <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/builtonfacts\/\">Built on Facts<\/a> territory, but the relevant formula is:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/principles\/wp-content\/blogs.dir\/467\/files\/2012\/04\/i-7221c26c329caa2e3e23897667636873-8e8943fcbf5e131710d8d04571f428e5.png\" alt=\"i-7221c26c329caa2e3e23897667636873-8e8943fcbf5e131710d8d04571f428e5.png\" \/><\/p>\n<p>For six days (5.18&#215;10<sup>5<\/sup> seconds) to seem like 13.7 billion years (4.32&#215;10<sup>18<\/sup> seconds), the Lorentz factor &gamma; would need to be 8.34&#215;10<sup>12<\/sup>. Solving this for the relative speed as a fraction of the speed of light tells us that God must be moving at:<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>v<sub>God<\/sub> = 0.99999999999999999999999999281254 c<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>That&#8217;s only 2.15&#215;10<sup>-16<\/sup> m\/s short of the speed of light. So God would trail a beam of light by only 1.12 million meters at the end of creation.<\/p>\n<p>Starting from rest, this would require a total energy of 7.5&#215;10<sup>29<\/sup> joules per kilogram of God-mass to get up to speed. If you had expended that kind of energy, you&#8217;d rest of the seventh day, too.<\/p>\n<p>(You might try to claim that God&#8217;s mass should be zero, given that He is insubstantial. This can&#8217;t be true, though, as if His mass were zero, He would necessarily be moving at exactly c, the speed of light. In that case, the Lorentz factor &gamma; would be infinite, and no time would have passed in God&#8217;s frame since the start of creation. For God to have experienced the creation taking a finite time, He must be moving at a speed below that of light, and this implies that God has a non-zero, albeit very, very small, mass.)<\/p>\n<p>(If you were to suppose that God is subject to the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Greisen%E2%80%93Zatsepin%E2%80%93Kuzmin_limit\">GZK cut-off<\/a>, lest He scatter inelastically off photons from the cosmic microwave background, this would imply that God has a mass of 10<sup>-29<\/sup> kg. But that would just be silly&#8230;)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Over in Twitter-land, Eric Weinstein is visiting the AMNH at the same time as a bunch of Orthodox Jews, and takes the opportunity for a little Q&amp;A: Me: Excuse me, but how is the phylogenetic tree reconciled with Torah. Modern Orthodox Man: Lorentzian time dilation. It&#8217;s a head hurter. This is an interesting attempt to&hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/2009\/09\/14\/the-speed-of-god\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">The Speed of God<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"1","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9,7,30,11,24],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4073","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-math","category-physics","category-religion","category-science","category-silliness","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4073","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4073"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4073\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4073"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4073"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4073"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}