{"id":3918,"date":"2009-07-26T11:54:24","date_gmt":"2009-07-26T11:54:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/principles\/2009\/07\/26\/philosophy-of-science-fiction\/"},"modified":"2009-07-26T11:54:24","modified_gmt":"2009-07-26T11:54:24","slug":"philosophy-of-science-fiction","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/2009\/07\/26\/philosophy-of-science-fiction\/","title":{"rendered":"Philosophy of Science (Fiction)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>As previously noted, I will be on programming at the upcoming Worldcon in Montreal, including moderating a panel at 10am Saturday with the following title and description:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><strong>The Philosophy of Science<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>To what extent does SF explore the meaning of science for scientists and create the ideas that our culture has of science?<\/p>\n<p>Panelists: Greer Gilman, James Morrow, Jeff Warner, Richard Crownover, and DD Barant<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>This is a little outside my normal range, so this post is a combination of thinking-out-loud and asking-for help as I try to figure out what sort of discussion ought to go with that panel description.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>This is really two issues bound together, namely &#8220;To what extent does SF explore the meaning of science for scientists?&#8221; and &#8220;To what extent does SF create the ideas that our culture has of scientists?&#8221; The latter is relatively easy, I think&#8211; there&#8217;s an obvious tension between the &#8220;science is awesome!&#8221; stories of Asimov and Hal Clement, and the &#8220;there are some things Man was not meant to know&#8221; stories that start with Mary Shelley and continue on through Michael Crichton, and that ought to be good for some discussion. <\/p>\n<p>One obvious way to go would be to talk about whether SF accurately depicts the practice of science, but that seems like a waste of James Morrow and Greer Gilman, neither of whom are professional scientists. (I have no idea who the other panelists are&#8211; two of the three have names that give inconclusive Google results (Jeff Warner might be the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jeffwarner.com\/\">folk musician<\/a>, but I&#8217;m guessing probably not the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Jeff_Warner\">pro wrestler<\/a>&#8230;), and DD Barant is the author of an urban fantasy.) And the question really seems to be more about the motivation of scientists than about the day-to-day business of science.<\/p>\n<p>I like to try to keep panels grounded in fairly specific books as much as possible&#8211; I&#8217;m much happier leaving a panel with a couple of new books or authors to check out than when the whole thing deals in airy generalities. I&#8217;m not thinking of too many books that deal with what makes scientists tick, though&#8211; Kirstein&#8217;s Steerswoman books, maybe <cite>Contact<\/cite>, a bit of <cite>As She Climbed Across the Table<\/cite>. There&#8217;s the whole <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lablit.com\/\">Lab Lit<\/a> thing, but weirdly, that seems like more of a mainstream fiction thing than a SF thing. (Which, I suppose, might be an interesting direction to go&#8211; do mainstream writers do a better job of getting at what scientists are like than SF writers?)<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s also the whole &#8220;what is the meaning of science for scientists&#8221; definitional game, which can get really thick with citations of Kuhn and Feyeraband and whatever. I&#8217;m not wild about that tack, though, as I&#8217;ve always been more of a Damon Knight\/ Potter Stewart kind of guy (science is what scientists do when they say they&#8217;re doing science). Also, it would probably require me to read Feyeraband, in my copious spare time.<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t know. This is a tricky one. Happily, given the make-up of the panel, I could probably fall back to the &#8220;You are smart people. Say something interesting.&#8221; moderator punt. But I&#8217;d like to have a better idea of possible discussion topics than that.<\/p>\n<p>Suggestions?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As previously noted, I will be on programming at the upcoming Worldcon in Montreal, including moderating a panel at 10am Saturday with the following title and description: The Philosophy of Science To what extent does SF explore the meaning of science for scientists and create the ideas that our culture has of science? Panelists: Greer&hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/2009\/07\/26\/philosophy-of-science-fiction\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Philosophy of Science (Fiction)<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"1","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[8,18,35,37,29,38],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3918","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-academia","category-books","category-movies","category-pop_culture","category-sf","category-television","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3918","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3918"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3918\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3918"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3918"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3918"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}