{"id":2236,"date":"2008-02-03T11:14:51","date_gmt":"2008-02-03T11:14:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/principles\/2008\/02\/03\/european-politics-have-no-righ\/"},"modified":"2008-02-03T11:14:51","modified_gmt":"2008-02-03T11:14:51","slug":"european-politics-have-no-righ","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/2008\/02\/03\/european-politics-have-no-righ\/","title":{"rendered":"European Politics Have  No Right Wing"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Over at Aardvarcheology, Martin <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/aardvarchaeology\/2008\/02\/us_politics_have_no_left_wing.php\">complains about US politics<\/a>. This is bog standard European oh-you-benighted-Americans stuff, with a convenient one-sentence summary:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>From a European perspective, US politics are an ongoing battle between the extreme Right and the middle Right.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>This gets up my nose a bit, because as I commented over there, it would be perfectly equivalent to say &#8220;From a US perspective, European politics are an ongoing battle between the extreme Left and the middle Left.&#8221; It wouldn&#8217;t let Europeans feel all smug, though, so you don&#8217;t see it as often.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t disagree with the basic statement in the least&#8211; American politics are conducted significantly to the right of European politics. I&#8217;d be much happier if we could shift the whole American political spectrum leftward a few steps (probably not as far as most Europeans would want it to go, but a bit left of where it is now).<\/p>\n<p>What bugs me, though, is the &#8220;oh, you poor ignorant Americans&#8221; tone affected by most Europeans writing this sort of thing. And not a few Americans who echo the sentiment.<\/p>\n<p>Yes, the American political spectrum is well to the right of the European center. This came about as the result of a series of historical accidents and contingent social processes that I&#8217;m sure you could mine for a couple of Ph.D. theses were you so inclined.<\/p>\n<p>But the European political spectrum is the result of <strong>exactly the same sort of historical accidents<\/strong> as the American system. It&#8217;s not the result of any especially enlightened or rigorously scientific process, and there&#8217;s certainly no reason to think it&#8217;s morally superior to the American version of things. Other than, of course, the fact that Martin happened to grow up in the European system, and as a result it&#8217;s a better fit for his personal political biases.<\/p>\n<p>What irritates me about this is not just the fact that the reverse comment&#8211; &#8220;you Europeans need to become more conservative&#8221;&#8211; would be (and is) met with high dudgeon by the same people who will happily tell Americans how to re-shape our political system. It&#8217;s that the whole thing is completely pointless.<\/p>\n<p>Noting that American politics takes place in a compressed range of ideology relative to the European system is about as productive as noting that European geography takes place in a compressed range of latitudes relative to the United States. It&#8217;s a fact of the landscape, and you work with it as best you can.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Over at Aardvarcheology, Martin complains about US politics. This is bog standard European oh-you-benighted-Americans stuff, with a convenient one-sentence summary: From a European perspective, US politics are an ongoing battle between the extreme Right and the middle Right. This gets up my nose a bit, because as I commented over there, it would be perfectly&hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/2008\/02\/03\/european-politics-have-no-righ\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">European Politics Have  No Right Wing<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"1","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[28],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2236","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2236","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2236"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2236\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2236"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2236"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2236"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}