{"id":2176,"date":"2008-01-14T09:45:15","date_gmt":"2008-01-14T09:45:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/principles\/2008\/01\/14\/the-clinton-conundrum\/"},"modified":"2008-01-14T09:45:15","modified_gmt":"2008-01-14T09:45:15","slug":"the-clinton-conundrum","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/2008\/01\/14\/the-clinton-conundrum\/","title":{"rendered":"The Clinton Conundrum"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve seen a lot of people linking to this <a href=\"http:\/\/mediamatters.org\/items\/200801110014\">exhaustive recounting of Chris Matthews&#8217;s unhealthy fixation on Hillary Clinton<\/a>, which leads off with a great quote from <a href=\"http:\/\/firedoglake.com\/2008\/01\/08\/steamed-as-iron-y-abounds\/\">this firedoglake post<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>I do not care which person is your candidate.  I don&#8217;t care what you think of Hillary Clinton as a potential president.  What is being done in the press is akin to a pack of rabid 7th graders trying to haze the nerdy girl in school simply because they can.  It has nothing to do with her qualifications &#8212; it has to do with gender, and these lemming pundits think that it&#8217;s perfectly acceptable because everyone is doing it, including women like Andrea Mitchell and Anne Kornblut.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>The Matthews stuff in particular is pretty damning, but they&#8217;re right that there&#8217;s a general antipathy toward both Clintons that really does seem to operate on a junior-high-clique sort of level. It takes some particularly vile turns when directed at Hillary. It&#8217;s reprehensible, and if this sort of nonsense were to end up costing her the Democratic nomination, that would suck.<\/p>\n<p>But here&#8217;s the thing: while this junior-high hazing would be a shitty reason to vote against Hillary, it&#8217;s also a shitty reason to vote <strong>for<\/strong> her.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s really tempting, of course, to vote for her just to stick it to the &#8220;cool kids&#8221; of the media establishment. It would just about serve them right to have their efforts to smear her backfire and vault her into the presidency.<\/p>\n<p>But there are perfectly sensible reasons to not like her, that have nothing to do with sexism or media chicanery. You can find them extensively documents by people like <a href=\"http:\/\/matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com\/\">Matthew Yglesias<\/a> and the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.samefacts.com\/\">Mark Kleiman and friends<\/a>. She&#8217;s got some dodgy views on executive power and whatever we&#8217;re calling our Middle East misadventures this week. She&#8217;s not my favorite of the Democratic candidates, that&#8217;s for sure, though she&#8217;s worlds better than any of the lunatics and imbeciles the GOP is throwing up.<\/p>\n<p>So it&#8217;s really kind of a no-win situation. If you vote against her because of the concerted effort to make her look bad on trivial grounds, you&#8217;re acceding to the influence of people with the ethics and morals of middle-school girls. But if you vote <strong>for<\/strong> her just to spite them, you&#8217;re still giving them undue influence over your decision-making processes.<\/p>\n<p>And, of course, no matter what people end up doing, the end result will be interpreted in a way that confirms the power of said middle-school girls.<\/p>\n<p>And they wonder why people get disgusted with the whole process.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve seen a lot of people linking to this exhaustive recounting of Chris Matthews&#8217;s unhealthy fixation on Hillary Clinton, which leads off with a great quote from this firedoglake post: I do not care which person is your candidate. I don&#8217;t care what you think of Hillary Clinton as a potential president. What is being&hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/2008\/01\/14\/the-clinton-conundrum\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">The Clinton Conundrum<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"1","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[28],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2176","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2176","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2176"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2176\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2176"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2176"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2176"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}