{"id":1294,"date":"2007-03-29T12:12:21","date_gmt":"2007-03-29T12:12:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/principles\/2007\/03\/29\/real-courses\/"},"modified":"2007-03-29T12:12:21","modified_gmt":"2007-03-29T12:12:21","slug":"real-courses","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/2007\/03\/29\/real-courses\/","title":{"rendered":"Labs vs. &#8220;Real&#8221; Courses"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>One final Steve Gimbel note. Toward the end of his <a href=\"http:\/\/philosophersplayground.blogspot.com\/2007\/03\/does-learning-science-mean-doing.html\">anti-lab post<\/a>, he writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>If you want to see a science professor get angry, just tell them that they teach all those labs to get out of teaching real courses. You&#8217;ll see faces get flush, veins pop out of heads and necks, and receive a high decibel screed about not understanding how time intensive it is to prepare labs and grade lab reports. They are incredibly touchy about this issue. Maybe it&#8217;s because it&#8217;s true, maybe it isn&#8217;t; but either way, it does mean that there are fewer science classes taught.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>This is, I hope, the dumbest thing I&#8217;ll read today.<\/p>\n<p>Really, this makes about as much sense as going up to a philosophy professor and saying &#8220;I know you guys teach all those free-form seminar\/ discussion classes just because you&#8217;re too lazy to write detailed lectures.&#8221; I&#8217;d expect a lot of spluttering and yelling there, too, and not because there was any truth to the comment, but because it&#8217;s an ignorant and obnoxious thing to say.<\/p>\n<p>The fact that he thinks this makes a point of some sort makes me dramatically less interested in anything he has to say about the structure of science curricula.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One final Steve Gimbel note. Toward the end of his anti-lab post, he writes: If you want to see a science professor get angry, just tell them that they teach all those labs to get out of teaching real courses. You&#8217;ll see faces get flush, veins pop out of heads and necks, and receive a&hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/2007\/03\/29\/real-courses\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Labs vs. &#8220;Real&#8221; Courses<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"1","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[16],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1294","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-two_cultures","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1294","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1294"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1294\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1294"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1294"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/chadorzel.com\/principles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1294"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}